Response to INSPIRE Discovery and View Draft - Revision history

Wiki-JoWalsh: added excel urls

2008-02-18T22:49:18Z

added excel urls

Wiki-Pg at 12:39, 1 February 2008

2008-02-01T12:39:59Z

Wiki-Pg: /* Responses */

2008-02-01T12:32:26Z

Responses

Wiki-Pg at 12:40, 29 January 2008

2008-01-29T12:40:27Z

Wiki-JoWalsh: /* Responses */

2007-12-21T11:53:59Z

Responses

Wiki-JoWalsh at 11:41, 21 December 2007

2007-12-21T11:41:47Z

Wiki-JoWalsh at 17:39, 20 December 2007

2007-12-20T17:39:15Z

Wiki-JoWalsh: New page: http://inspire.jrc.it/reports/ImplementingRules/network/D3.7_Draft_IR_Discovery_and_View_Services_v2.0.pdf This page is meant for collecting feedback about the above draft legal rules for...

2007-12-18T14:35:39Z

New page: http://inspire.jrc.it/reports/ImplementingRules/network/D3.7_Draft_IR_Discovery_and_View_Services_v2.0.pdf This page is meant for collecting feedback about the above draft legal rules for...

New page

http://inspire.jrc.it/reports/ImplementingRules/network/D3.7_Draft_IR_Discovery_and_View_Services_v2.0.pdf

This page is meant for collecting feedback about the above draft legal rules for European SDI participants, to be submitted through the FOSS SDIC. We can only send one spreadsheet document on behalf of the SDIC, so either please provide text or a link here if you want your comments to be included.

When adding commentary please mark your contributions with Article or Annex number (e.g. 8.2.3) and paragraph number if necessary, that would help a lot.

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	\| 6 Protocol bindings \|\|para 2\|\| G \|\|''"Therefore, for INSPIRE Services SOAP bindings are mandatory"''. This claim is based on two assertions: 1. that the D3.5 Architecture document requires SOAP, and 2. that the W3C organisation defines web services as having SOAP bindings, and '''neither''' of these assertions are grounded. \|\|The mandatory SOAP bindings clause, possibly this entire section of the draft, should be reworded or removed.		\| 6 Protocol bindings \|\|para 2\|\| G \|\|''"Therefore, for INSPIRE Services SOAP bindings are mandatory"''. This claim is based on two assertions: 1. that the D3.5 Architecture document requires SOAP, and 2. that the W3C organisation defines web services as having SOAP bindings, and '''neither''' of these assertions are grounded. \|\|The mandatory SOAP bindings clause, possibly this entire section of the draft, should be reworded or removed.
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		+	extra comments in spreadsheets:
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		+	* [http://space.frot.org/inspire/discovery_view_irs.xls sent via FOSS SDIC]
		+	* [http://space.frot.org/inspire/Discovery&View_comments_Jo.xls sent via CEN]

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 |'''Clause/ Subclause'''||'''Paragraph/ Figure/ Table'''||'''Type comment'''||'''Comment'''||'''Proposed change'''
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-| 6, Protocol bindings || para 1 || G || "One of the requirements specified in the D3.5 Network Services Architecture document is the use of SOAP bindings for all INSPIRE services."'' This is incorrect. [[Response to Network Services Architecture|D3.5]] '''does not''' mandate SOAP, simply offers arguments in its favour and solicits reports and comments from the spatial data user community.||Change "one of the requirements specified" to a less definite wording, or omit this section until the Architecture is actually complete.
+| 6, Protocol bindings || para 1 || G || "''One of the requirements specified in the D3.5 Network Services Architecture document is the use of SOAP bindings for all INSPIRE services.''" This is incorrect. [[Response to Network Services Architecture|D3.5]] '''does not''' mandate SOAP, simply offers arguments in its favour and solicits reports and comments from the spatial data user community.||Change "''one of the requirements specified''" to a less definite wording, or omit this section until the Architecture is actually complete.
 |-
-| 6  Protocol bindings || para 1|| G || ''In the D3.5 Network Services Architecture document it is proposed to implement INSPIRE services as web services, as defined by W3C in http://www.w3c.org/TR/ws-arch/''. The URL given '''is not''' a W3C Recommendation and explicitly states that it is a Working Group Note which "...'''''does not''' imply endorsement by the W3C Membership''" and also states that "''It is '''inappropriate''' to cite this document as other than work in progress.''" At this time in 2003 as today, there was much disagreement about the definition of Web Services. A respected geospatial market analyst wrote at the time that ''"Today, four organizations - Liberty Alliance, OASIS, W3C and WS- I - are vying to preside over the Web standards process, each with different goals"''[http://www.directionsmag.com/printer.php?article_id=455 1] and this Working Group Note is one of several competing "definitions" written by members of industry consortia at that time. ||This URL should be removed from citation or it should be made clear that it is a non-binding draft without agreement from the w3c membership.
+| 6  Protocol bindings || para 1|| G || "''In the D3.5 Network Services Architecture document it is proposed to implement INSPIRE services as web services, as defined by W3C in http://www.w3c.org/TR/ws-arch/''." The URL given '''is not''' a W3C Recommendation and explicitly states that it is a Working Group Note which "...'''''does not''' imply endorsement by the W3C Membership''" and also states that "''It is '''inappropriate''' to cite this document as other than work in progress.''" At this time in 2003 as today, there was much disagreement about the definition of Web Services. A respected geospatial market analyst wrote at the time that ''"Today, four organizations - Liberty Alliance, OASIS, W3C and WS- I - are vying to preside over the Web standards process, each with different goals"'' (see http://www.directionsmag.com/printer.php?article_id=455) and this Working Group Note is one of several competing "definitions" written by members of industry consortia at that time. ||This URL should be removed from citation or it should be made clear that it is a non-binding draft without agreement from the w3c membership.
 |-
 | 6 Protocol bindings ||para 2|| G ||''"Therefore, for INSPIRE Services SOAP bindings are mandatory"''. This claim is based on two assertions: 1. that the D3.5 Architecture document requires SOAP, and 2. that the W3C organisation defines web services as having SOAP bindings, and '''neither''' of these assertions are grounded. ||The mandatory SOAP bindings clause, possibly this entire section of the draft, should be reworded or removed.
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 |'''Clause/ Subclause'''||'''Paragraph/ Figure/ Table'''||'''Type comment'''||'''Comment'''||'''Proposed change'''
 |-
-| 6, Protocol bindings || para 1 || G || "One of the requirements specified in the D3.5 Network Services Architecture document is the use of SOAP bindings for all INSPIRE services."'' This is incorrect. [[Response to Network Services Architecture|D3.5]] '''does not''' mandate SOAP, simply offers arguments in its favour and solicits reports and comments from the spatial data user community. - change "one of the requirements specified" to a less definite wording, or omit this section until the Architecture is actually complete.||
+| 6, Protocol bindings || para 1 || G || "One of the requirements specified in the D3.5 Network Services Architecture document is the use of SOAP bindings for all INSPIRE services."'' This is incorrect. [[Response to Network Services Architecture|D3.5]] '''does not''' mandate SOAP, simply offers arguments in its favour and solicits reports and comments from the spatial data user community.||Change "one of the requirements specified" to a less definite wording, or omit this section until the Architecture is actually complete.
 |-
-| 6  Protocol bindings || para 1|| G ||"web services, as defined by the W3C in http://www.w3c.org/TR/ws-arch/"'' The URL given is not a W3C Recommendation and explicitly states that it is a Working Group Note which '''does not imply endorsement by the W3C Membership''' and states that it '''is inappropriate to cite this document as other than work in progress.''' At this time in 2003 as today, there was much disagreement about the definition of Web Services. A respected geospatial market analyst wrote at the time that ''"Today, four organizations - Liberty Alliance, OASIS, W3C and WS- I - are vying to preside over the Web standards process, each with different goals"''[http://www.directionsmag.com/printer.php?article_id=455 1] and this Working Group Note is one of several competing "definitions" written by members of industry consortia at that time. - This URL should be removed from citation or it should be made clear that it is a non-binding draft without agreement from the w3c membership. ||
+| 6  Protocol bindings || para 1|| G || ''In the D3.5 Network Services Architecture document it is proposed to implement INSPIRE services as web services, as defined by W3C in http://www.w3c.org/TR/ws-arch/''. The URL given '''is not''' a W3C Recommendation and explicitly states that it is a Working Group Note which "...'''''does not''' imply endorsement by the W3C Membership''" and also states that "''It is '''inappropriate''' to cite this document as other than work in progress.''" At this time in 2003 as today, there was much disagreement about the definition of Web Services. A respected geospatial market analyst wrote at the time that ''"Today, four organizations - Liberty Alliance, OASIS, W3C and WS- I - are vying to preside over the Web standards process, each with different goals"''[http://www.directionsmag.com/printer.php?article_id=455 1] and this Working Group Note is one of several competing "definitions" written by members of industry consortia at that time. ||This URL should be removed from citation or it should be made clear that it is a non-binding draft without agreement from the w3c membership.
 |-
-| 6 Protocol bindings ||para 2|| G ||''"Therefore, for INSPIRE Services SOAP bindings are mandatory"''. As this claim is based on two assertions (1. that the D3.5 Architecture document requires SOAP, and 2. that the W3C organisation defines web services as having SOAP bindings) and neither of these assertions are grounded in fact, the mandatory SOAP bindings clause, possibly this entire section of the draft, should be reworded or removed.||
+| 6 Protocol bindings ||para 2|| G ||''"Therefore, for INSPIRE Services SOAP bindings are mandatory"''. This claim is based on two assertions: 1. that the D3.5 Architecture document requires SOAP, and 2. that the W3C organisation defines web services as having SOAP bindings, and '''neither''' of these assertions are grounded. ||The mandatory SOAP bindings clause, possibly this entire section of the draft, should be reworded or removed.
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 == Responses ==
-, Protocol bindings para 1 - ''"One of the requirements specified in the D3.5 Network Services Architecture document is the use of SOAP bindings for all INSPIRE services."'' This is incorrect. [[Response to Network Services Architecture|D3.5]] '''does not''' mandate SOAP, simply offers arguments in its favour and solicits reports and comments from the spatial data user community. - change "one of the requirements specified" to a less definite wording, or omit this section until the Architecture is actually complete.
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-Protocol bindings para 1 - ''"web services, as defined by the W3C in http://www.w3c.org/TR/ws-arch/"'' The URL given is not a W3C Recommendation and explicitly states that it is a Working Group Note which '''does not imply endorsement by the W3C Membership''' and states that it '''is inappropriate to cite this document as other than work in progress.''' At this time in 2003 as today, there was much disagreement about the definition of Web Services. A respected geospatial market analyst wrote at the time that ''"Today, four organizations - Liberty Alliance, OASIS, W3C and WS- I - are vying to preside over the Web standards process, each with different goals"''[http://www.directionsmag.com/printer.php?article_id=455 1] and this Working Group Note is one of several competing "definitions" written by members of industry consortia at that time. - This URL should be removed from citation or it should be made clear that it is a non-binding draft without agreement from the w3c membership.
+|'''Clause/ Subclause'''||'''Paragraph/ Figure/ Table'''||'''Type comment'''||'''Comment'''||'''Proposed change'''
+|-
-Protocol bindings para 2 - ''"Therefore, for INSPIRE Services SOAP bindings are mandatory"''. As this claim is based on two assertions (1. that the D3.5 Architecture document requires SOAP, and 2. that the W3C organisation defines web services as having SOAP bindings) and neither of these assertions are grounded in fact, the mandatory SOAP bindings clause, possibly this entire section of the draft, should be reworded or removed.
+| 6, Protocol bindings || para 1 || G || "One of the requirements specified in the D3.5 Network Services Architecture document is the use of SOAP bindings for all INSPIRE services."'' This is incorrect. [[Response to Network Services Architecture|D3.5]] '''does not''' mandate SOAP, simply offers arguments in its favour and solicits reports and comments from the spatial data user community. - change "one of the requirements specified" to a less definite wording, or omit this section until the Architecture is actually complete.||

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	== Responses ==		== Responses ==
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		+	6, Protocol bindings para 1 - ''"One of the requirements specified in the D3.5 Network Services Architecture document is the use of SOAP bindings for all INSPIRE services."'' This is incorrect. [[Response to Network Services Architecture\|D3.5]] '''does not''' mandate SOAP, simply offers arguments in its favour and solicits reports and comments from the spatial data user community. - change "one of the requirements specified" to a less definite wording, or omit this section until the Architecture is actually complete.
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		+	6 Protocol bindings para 1 - ''"web services, as defined by the W3C in http://www.w3c.org/TR/ws-arch/"'' The URL given is not a W3C Recommendation and explicitly states that it is a Working Group Note which '''does not imply endorsement by the W3C Membership''' and states that it '''is inappropriate to cite this document as other than work in progress.''' At this time in 2003 as today, there was much disagreement about the definition of Web Services. A respected geospatial market analyst wrote at the time that ''"Today, four organizations - Liberty Alliance, OASIS, W3C and WS- I - are vying to preside over the Web standards process, each with different goals"''[http://www.directionsmag.com/printer.php?article_id=455 1] and this Working Group Note is one of several competing "definitions" written by members of industry consortia at that time. - This URL should be removed from citation or it should be made clear that it is a non-binding draft without agreement from the w3c membership.
		+
		+	6 Protocol bindings para 2 - ''"Therefore, for INSPIRE Services SOAP bindings are mandatory"''. As this claim is based on two assertions (1. that the D3.5 Architecture document requires SOAP, and 2. that the W3C organisation defines web services as having SOAP bindings) and neither of these assertions are grounded in fact, the mandatory SOAP bindings clause, possibly this entire section of the draft, should be reworded or removed.

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 This page is meant for collecting feedback about the above draft legal rules for European SDI participants, to be submitted through the FOSS SDIC. We can only send one spreadsheet document on behalf of the SDIC, so either please provide text or a link here if you want your comments to be included.
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 * [[FOSS SDIC]]
-* [[Response to INSPIRE Network Services Draft]]
+* [[Response to INSPIRE Network Services Architecture]] (this document is referenced in this IR and is short so is worth reading first.)
 == Responses ==

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−	~~http://inspire.jrc.it/reports/ImplementingRules/network/D3.7_Draft_IR_Discovery_and_View_Services_v2.0.pdf~~

	This page is meant for collecting feedback about the above draft legal rules for European SDI participants, to be submitted through the FOSS SDIC. We can only send one spreadsheet document on behalf of the SDIC, so either please provide text or a link here if you want your comments to be included.		This page is meant for collecting feedback about the above draft legal rules for European SDI participants, to be submitted through the FOSS SDIC. We can only send one spreadsheet document on behalf of the SDIC, so either please provide text or a link here if you want your comments to be included.

	When adding commentary please mark your contributions with Article or Annex number (e.g. 8.2.3) and paragraph number if necessary, that would help a lot.		When adding commentary please mark your contributions with Article or Annex number (e.g. 8.2.3) and paragraph number if necessary, that would help a lot.
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		+	* http://inspire.jrc.it/reports/ImplementingRules/network/D3.7_Draft_IR_Discovery_and_View_Services_v2.0.pdf Implementing Rules for Discovery and View Services
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		+	* [[FOSS SDIC]]
		+	* [[Response to INSPIRE Network Services Draft]]
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		+	== Responses ==