Public Geospatial Data Project Update Mission - Revision history

Wiki-Bitner at 16:55, 9 December 2007

2007-12-09T16:55:34Z

Wiki-Kgjenkins: added my votes and notes

2007-12-07T19:45:28Z

added my votes and notes

Neteler: + markusN

2007-11-30T14:00:59Z

+ markusN

Neteler: + markusN

2007-11-30T13:58:41Z

+ markusN

Neteler: + markusN

2007-11-30T12:24:57Z

+ markusN

Wiki-Ominiverdi: /* Hurdles */

2007-11-30T00:10:23Z

Hurdles

Wiki-Ominiverdi: /* Beliefs */

2007-11-30T00:08:46Z

Beliefs

Wiki-Ominiverdi: /* Tasks */

2007-11-29T23:25:33Z

Tasks

Wiki-Ominiverdi: /* Purpose */

2007-11-29T23:18:30Z

Purpose

Wiki-Bitner: /* Tasks */

2007-11-29T18:15:57Z

Tasks

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		+	= Draft Mission =
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		+	= Draft Vision =
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		+	= Brainstorming Phase =
	This page is for brainstorming for the purpose of refining the Mission Statement of the OSGeo Public Geospatial Data Project.		This page is for brainstorming for the purpose of refining the Mission Statement of the OSGeo Public Geospatial Data Project.

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 ** ominiverdi +1 (seems more like a dream but I like it)
 ** markusN +1
-* Make it easy to find data to use in OSGeo software
+* Make it easy to find (free) data to use in OSGeo software
 ** crschmidt +1
 ** vdb +1
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 ** nedhorning +1 Would be useful to have a utility to facilitate processing varied data to create data sets with seamless layers using a common extent, projection, resolution
 ** markusN +1: OSGeo software needs OSGeo one stop data "shop" (but free data)
 * Spread the word about already available geodata collections, not only for use with OSGeo software
-* markusN +1: the current approach doesn't scale
+** markusN +1: the current approach doesn't scale
 * Have relationships in place to respond to disasters
 ** (bitner +1)
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 * Extend Open Source ideals to the data world
 ** crschmidt -1 -- 'Open Source ideals' as a statement is too vague to necessarily apply to data. For example, one of the big things that makes open source 'open source' in my opinion is the ability to modify the code as you see fit. Some geodata -- aerial imagery especially -- doesn't require the ability to 'modify' to be useful, so long as other, more useful, rights are available, like reuse or deriving data from the imagery.
-**The Sunburned Surveyor -1 - I agree with crsmchidt. I think this item should be rolled into the one below it.
+** The Sunburned Surveyor -1 - I agree with crsmchidt. I think this item should be rolled into the one below it.
 *Promote and facilitate open data creation, licensing, documentation, and distribution
-**nedhorning +1
+** nedhorning +1
-**The Sunburned Surveyor +1
+** The Sunburned Surveyor +1
 ** ominiverdi +1
 == Tasks ==
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 ** ominiverdi +1 (I like it but personally I'm doing nothing in this direction)
 ** markusN +1 (I seek space to publish the elaborated MODIS time series for the [http://www.grassbook.org/gallery/ OSGeo NC data set] which needs 400MB of space)
 * Provide computing resources and volunteer support to pull together and add value to datasets
 ** bitner +1
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 ** The Sunburned Surveyor +1
 ** markusN +1 (we have already started together with Martin Spott to enrich geonames.org, VMAP0 etc)
 * Provide forum to create relationships and exercise the ability to come together in disasters
 ** markusN +0 (we first need data)
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 ** nedhorning +1 Look into collaboration with NASA WorldWind
 ** markusN +1 (agrees with nedhorning)
 * Host applications using free data using OSGeo software
 ** bitner +1
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 ** ominiverdi +1 (this is a very important problem: there's still nothing legally valuable to suggest but Public Domain)
 ** markusN +1
 * Actively pursue interactions with holders of GIS data (state agencies, city governments, etc.) to open their data by providing infrastructure and advice
 ** crschmidt +1
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 ** nedhorning +1 This is an area where I see OSGeo having huge potential. There is clearly growing activity in this arena (it even has a name – Volunteered Geographic Information). OSGeo can play a role supporting existing projects and also generating/incubating/supporting innovative ideas.
 ** ominiverdi +1
 * Pursue grants and provide funding opportunities to further Geodata objectives
 ** ominiverdi -1 (we have a lot to do before this point make sense)
 == Beliefs ==
-(What motivates are work?)
+(What motivates our work?)
 * Data should be free
 ** bitner +1
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 ** ominiverdi +1
 ** markusN +1 (free as in free software with reasonable free licenses)
 * It should be easy to get free geodata (with a good [or at least known] quality level)
 ** vdb +1
 ** The Sunburned Surveyor
 * Standards help the flow of data
 ** crschmidt -1: "Standards" as the term is generally useful tend to only be useful as a way to argue. Software to read all the existing data in the world is good, and we're getting pretty good at having that to the extent we need it. With that in mind, I'd say that 'standards' are less important than well documented low-setup cost services or the like.
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 * The OSGeo Data Committee has some great minds and we should be able to work together to make significant contributions toward improving the state of GeoData.
 ** nedhorning +1
 * People who want to collect/create GeoData and make it available to the masses should be able to do that with ease and those who are not interested should be enlightened
 ** nedhorning +1
 == Hurdles ==
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 ** +1 vdb (+2 if I could)
 ** ominiverdi +1 (chris +1)
 * Too much talking about what we need to do, and not just doing
 ** +1 vdb(me first)
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 * Lack of incentives for people to work on and complete specific projects
 ** nedhorning +1 One incentive is money – there are certainly others. Some folks have limited volunteer time  so making GeoData projects part of their day-job would likely improve productivity. It would be great to see individuals team up with others who can work together to write proposals for funding. These “team” projects might be a better way to start rather than looking for larger OSGeo-wide projects. One exception is that OSGeo could pursue funds to manage a grant-giving initiative to fund individual projects.

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 ** The Sunburned surveyor
 ** ominiverdi +1
 * It should be easy to get free geodata (with a good [or at least known] quality level)
 ** vdb +1
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 * Standards help the flow of data
 ** crschmidt -1: "Standards" as the term is generally useful tend to only be useful as a way to argue. Software to read all the existing data in the world is good, and we're getting pretty good at having that to the extent we need it. With that in mind, I'd say that 'standards' are less important than well documented low-setup cost services or the like.
 ** The Sunburned Surveyor
 * Too much wanking keeps things from getting done
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 * Actions speak louder than words
 ** crschmidt +1
 ** ominiverdi +1
+** markusN +1 (already started :) )
 * The OSGeo Data Committee has some great minds and we should be able to work together to make significant contributions toward improving the state of GeoData.
 ** nedhorning +1
-*People who want to collect/create GeoData and make it available to the masses should be able to do that with ease and those who are not interested should be enlightened
+* People who want to collect/create GeoData and make it available to the masses should be able to do that with ease and those who are not interested should be enlightened
 ** nedhorning +1

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 ** The Sunburned Surveyor +1
 ** ominiverdi +1 (I like it but personally I'm doing nothing in this direction)
 * Provide computing resources and volunteer support to pull together and add value to datasets
 ** bitner +1
 ** nedhorning +1
 ** The Sunburned Surveyor +1
 * Provide forum to create relationships and exercise the ability to come together in disasters
 * Create multi-resolution datasets and services to provide best available base map data / imagery
 ** crschmidt +1: this is something that currently users can only get via Google, and it's something that I think a lot of people can help with in a way that Google will never be able to succeed at. Between ultralights, state agencies having more of a stake in a public project than in google, etc. it is a way to show OSGeo value quite clearly.
 ** vdb +1
 ** nedhorning +1 Look into collaboration with NASA WorldWind
 * Host applications using free data using OSGeo software
 ** bitner +1
-** zool +1)
+** zool +1
 ** ominiverdi +1 (dreaming at new GeoNetwork install)
 * Offer guidelines for public geodata licensing and help to connect people who are needing and offering advice
 ** (zool +1)
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 ** The Sunburned Surveyor +1
 ** ominiverdi +1 (this is a very important problem: there's still nothing legally valuable to suggest but Public Domain)
 * Actively pursue interactions with holders of GIS data (state agencies, city governments, etc.) to open their data by providing infrastructure and advice
 ** crschmidt +1
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 ** nedhorning +1 To make this viable we need to think of a long term support plan. We are currently relying on the generosity of Telescience. What if we loose this resource? This is important to think through if we offer infrastructure.
 ** The Sunburned Surveyor +1
-** ominiverdi +1 (we should go side by side with OSM, this is the what's happening in italian the community)
+** ominiverdi +1 (we should go side by side with OSM, this is the what's happening in the Italian community)
 * Actively pursue interactions with community data gathering projects (a la OSM) and encourage them to engage with the OSGeo community to the benefit of both groups
 ** crschmidt +1

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 ** vdb 0. Too strong statement for me, but I can see the idea.
 ** ominiverdi +1
 * Varied sample datasets are critical for GIS education
 ** bitner +1
 ** vdb + 1. This would greatly help, indeed.
 * Free counterparts to Google Maps and friends are necessary
 ** crschmidt +1
 ** vdb +1
 ** ominiverdi +1 (seems more like a dream but I like it)
 * Make it easy to find data to use in OSGeo software
 ** crschmidt +1
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 ** ominiverdi +1 (fundamental to me)
 ** nedhorning +1 Would be useful to have a utility to facilitate processing varied data to create data sets with seamless layers using a common extent, projection, resolution
 * Spread the word about already available geodata collections, not only for use with OSGeo software
 * Have relationships in place to respond to disasters
 ** (bitner +1)
 ** (crschmidt +1)
 ** ominiverdi 0 (don't think we can already manage this)
 * Show off OSGeo software in action
 ** bitner +1
 ** crschmidt -1. This is fine if we do it en route to other things, but delaying any action based on the idea that we should be using Geodata mission as a place to 'demo' software seems silly. (I'm probably biased, because everyone uses OpenLayers either way ;))
 * Extend Open Source ideals to the data world
-** crschmidt -1 -- 'Open Source ideals' as a statement is too vague to neccesarily apply to data. For example, one of the big things that makes open source 'open source' in my opinion is the ability to modify the code as you see fit. Some geodata -- aerial imagery especially -- doesn't require the ability to 'modify' to be useful, so long as other, more useful, rights are available, like reuse or deriving data from the imagery.
+** crschmidt -1 -- 'Open Source ideals' as a statement is too vague to necessarily apply to data. For example, one of the big things that makes open source 'open source' in my opinion is the ability to modify the code as you see fit. Some geodata -- aerial imagery especially -- doesn't require the ability to 'modify' to be useful, so long as other, more useful, rights are available, like reuse or deriving data from the imagery.
 **The Sunburned Surveyor -1 - I agree with crsmchidt. I think this item should be rolled into the one below it.
 *Promote and facilitate open data creation, licensing, documentation, and distribution