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FOSS4G EU Como 2015 BOF1 BOF1 summary

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''FOSS4G Europe in Como, July 16, 2015
Summary notes'''

Participants: [http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Europe_2015_BirdsOfAFeather#GeoForAll_BOF BOF_signup_list]. Thanks for Toni for taking notes!

We only had 45 minutes, so to make the meeting productive these questions were proposed:
'''
* Geo4All What would you like to see Geo4All in 5 years -- 2020 (!) -- in the context of educational collaboration?
* Geo4All what we need to do together to achieve this vision?
* Geo4All what can we do THIS YEAR to move forward?
* Geo4All what can YOU DO THIS YEAR to move us toward this vision?''''''

We didn't have enough time to go through all these questions. The key points that came out of our group's discussion focuses on questions 1 and 4.

'''1.VISION OF GEOFORALL EDUCATION IN 2020'''

'''A. CURRICULAR'''

* Universities and schools responsible for this
* Build shared curriculum in a MODULAR fashion and based on curricular standards such as
** the GIS&T Body of Knowledge (2014? Some updates being done on it now? Suchith says it may be by http://www.gi-n2k.eu/) and/or,
** the [http://www.geotechcenter.org/gtcm-curriculum-guide.html GCTM]
* Have a dataset sharing system
* Develop case-based material (e.g., solve a problem about flooding)
* Separate conceptual/theoretical from technology in course material. Design so that complementary exercises can be written for different technologies (e.g., QGIS, gvSig, Grass, etc.)
* Develop exercise materials with dataset names that are generic to allow for the 'swapping in and out' of data relevant to teaching location.

'''B. WEB-BASED SHARING PLATFORM'''

* Designed to allow the educator to search or easily find modules they want
* Could be graphical or hierarchical and/or built on one of the curriculum standards, where the user can click on a section and find available material (e.g., theory, exercises, cases) related to that concept
* Possible GeoForAll MOOC course(s)
* Whatever is implemented needs to be VERY SIMPLE and not demanding on the end user

'''C. INDUSTRY CONNECTIONS'''

* Students in our programs are getting internships with industry and academia that are involved in GeoForAll

2. STEPS OVER THE NEXT YEAR

- Dataset sharing (Lene)
- Education Hackfest (QGIS)
- Jupiter system: can we develop a Jupiter infraestructure?
- Maybe to create several MOOC. Coursera for example allows to create several levels?

'''3. DISCUSSION ABOUT REGIONAL LISTS QUESTION'''

- We decided we should keep them for the next year. They may be useful for helping with 'language' problems in our network (people who don't speak english), and it may be too early to decide... not much traffic on these lists currently, so not relly competing with the main GeoForAll list.

User:Anilk829029sdwdu

2016-09-01T22:03:45Z

Wiki-Harry Wood: remove confusing redirect

Spammer user

{{delete}}

Spam

2016-08-04T16:12:14Z

Wiki-Harry Wood: /* Normal wiki users can help */tweak link. just list redirects

Nonsense text and promotional links are an ever-present problem on this wiki. Those who add the pages don't seem to understand that these wiki links don't add anything to their pagerank and are just a waste of their and our time. Nevertheless, spam remains a problem.

== Wiki administrators ==
[[Special:Listadmins|wiki administrators]] are allowed to delete pages and/or block users. If you are interested in helping to block spamming accounts and revert edits please apply for administrator access on the SAC list (or contact [[User:Arnulf_Christl|Arnulf Christl]] directly). There is also a set of people who help review and reject/approve new wiki account registrations.

== Normal wiki users can help ==
Other wiki members cannot fully delete spam, however you can help by spotting the spam and tackling it. Spam on pre-existing pages should be reverted. Much spam involves creation of a new page, often with a spammy title. Deal with these by replacing the page with: <tt><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Spam]]</nowiki></tt>.<br>
These can be [https://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Spam&hidelinks=1 found] and deleted by administrators. By redirecting we help avoid search engines indexing spam page titles (Spam getting indexed will attract more spam).

All such efforts are appreciated. But we are also working on measures to reduce the need for this human effort.

== Shields up - Spam blocking measures ==

The wiki uses various spam blocking measures. Often these involve a level of inconvenience for real users which is a shame, and a difficult balance to strike. Server admins can experiment with reducing the inconvenient roadblocks if the wiki editing community is effective at zapping spam quickly... or vice versa. Measures include the following:

:'''Approved registrations''' - We require users to register before they can begin editing this wiki. But we currently also manually approve registrations using [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount Extension:ConfirmAccount]. We require users to describe themselves. Any descriptions which appears spammy is rejected. This is inconvenient for new real users, quite labour intensive for those reviewing registrations, and is proving to be increasingly ineffective at keeping out spammers. [http://cwillmes.de/blog/2016/08/02/the-daily-kindergardening-of-osgeo-wiki-spammers/ Adminstrator CWillmes blogged about 'The daily kindergardening of OSGeo wiki spammers'] which mostly focussed on this problem

:'''Captchas''' - We present a "captcha", and little anti-spam quiz question, when you make certain types of wiki edit. These are [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha QuestyCaptcha] questions which we've custom configured to this wiki. The questions ''should'' be easy for any human (and difficult for any automated spammer). Hopefully they are, but they'll inevitably inconvenience real users to some extent. The captchas are configured to be presented on every new link added.

== A few places to watch for spam ==

* [[Special:RecentChanges]]: This main OSGeo wiki

Spam on the osgeo trac system
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/geotiff/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update GeoTIFF] -frequently abused.
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/geos/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update GEOS] -frequently abused.
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/proj/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update PROJ.4]
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/timeline?daysback=45&wiki=on&update=Update GDAL]
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/metacrs/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update MetaCRS]

Spam

2016-08-03T22:41:39Z

Wiki-Harry Wood: /* Shields up again */ Rewrite. Describe a more up-to-date situation

Nonsense text and promotional links are an ever-present problem on this wiki. Those who add the pages don't seem to understand that these wiki links don't add anything to their pagerank and are just a waste of their and our time. Nevertheless, spam remains a problem.

== Wiki administrators ==
[[Special:Listadmins|wiki administrators]] are allowed to delete pages and/or block users. If you are interested in helping to block spamming accounts and revert edits please apply for administrator access on the SAC list (or contact [[User:Arnulf_Christl|Arnulf Christl]] directly). There is also a set of people who help review and reject/approve new wiki account registrations.

== Normal wiki users can help ==
Other wiki members cannot fully delete spam, however you can help by spotting the spam and tackling it. Spam on pre-existing pages should be reverted. Much spam involves creation of a new page, often with a spammy title. Deal with these by replacing the page with: <tt><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Spam]]</nowiki></tt>.<br>
These can be [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Spam|found]] and deleted by administrators. By redirecting we help avoid search engines indexing spam page titles (Spam getting indexed will attract more spam).

All such efforts are appreciated. But we are also working on measures to reduce the need for this human effort.

== Shields up - Spam blocking measures ==

The wiki uses various spam blocking measures. Often these involve a level of inconvenience for real users which is a shame, and a difficult balance to strike. Server admins can experiment with reducing the inconvenient roadblocks if the wiki editing community is effective at zapping spam quickly... or vice versa. Measures include the following:

:'''Approved registrations''' - We require users to register before they can begin editing this wiki. But we currently also manually approve registrations using [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount Extension:ConfirmAccount]. We require users to describe themselves. Any descriptions which appears spammy is rejected. This is inconvenient for new real users, quite labour intensive for those reviewing registrations, and is proving to be increasingly ineffective at keeping out spammers. [http://cwillmes.de/blog/2016/08/02/the-daily-kindergardening-of-osgeo-wiki-spammers/ Adminstrator CWillmes blogged about 'The daily kindergardening of OSGeo wiki spammers'] which mostly focussed on this problem

:'''Captchas''' - We present a "captcha", and little anti-spam quiz question, when you make certain types of wiki edit. These are [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha QuestyCaptcha] questions which we've custom configured to this wiki. The questions ''should'' be easy for any human (and difficult for any automated spammer). Hopefully they are, but they'll inevitably inconvenience real users to some extent. The captchas are configured to be presented on every new link added.

== A few places to watch for spam ==

* [[Special:RecentChanges]]: This main OSGeo wiki

Spam on the osgeo trac system
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/geotiff/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update GeoTIFF] -frequently abused.
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/geos/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update GEOS] -frequently abused.
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/proj/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update PROJ.4]
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/timeline?daysback=45&wiki=on&update=Update GDAL]
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/metacrs/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update MetaCRS]

Spam

2016-08-03T21:50:40Z

Wiki-Harry Wood: Rewrite better explaining how people can help (and that it is appreciated)

Nonsense text and promotional links are an ever-present problem on this wiki. Those who add the pages don't seem to understand that these wiki links don't add anything to their pagerank and are just a waste of their and our time. Nevertheless, spam remains a problem.

== Wiki administrators ==
[[Special:Listadmins|wiki administrators]] are allowed to delete pages and/or block users. If you are interested in helping to block spamming accounts and revert edits please apply for administrator access on the SAC list (or contact [[User:Arnulf_Christl|Arnulf Christl]] directly). There is also a set of people who help review and reject/approve new wiki account registrations.

== Normal wiki users can help ==
Other wiki members cannot fully delete spam, however you can help by spotting the spam and tackling it. Spam on pre-existing pages should be reverted. Much spam involves creation of a new page, often with a spammy title. Deal with these by replacing the page with: <tt><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Spam]]</nowiki></tt>.<br>
These can be [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Spam|found]] and deleted by administrators. By redirecting we help avoid search engines indexing spam page titles (Spam getting indexed will attract more spam).

All such efforts are appreciated. But we are also working on measures to reduce the need for this human effort.

== Shields up again ==

I have added some new captchas and the spam burden seems the be heavily reduced. Let's monitor... Cheers Markus [[User:Neteler|Neteler]] 00:33, 31 May 2012 (PDT)
: Is there any chance of making the captchas a ''little bit'' more tricky? At the moment it seems that the png is always "+1", which is making the automatic registration perhaps just a little bit too easy. [[User:Leo|Leo]] 03:56, 6 August 2013 (PDT)

[http://cwillmes.de/blog/2016/08/02/the-daily-kindergardening-of-osgeo-wiki-spammers/ Adminstrator CWillmes blogged about 'The daily kindergardening of OSGeo wiki spammers'] - August 02, 2016

== A few places to watch for spam ==

* [[Special:RecentChanges]]: This main OSGeo wiki

Spam on the osgeo trac system
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/geotiff/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update GeoTIFF] -frequently abused.
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/geos/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update GEOS] -frequently abused.
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/proj/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update PROJ.4]
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/timeline?daysback=45&wiki=on&update=Update GDAL]
* [http://trac.osgeo.org/metacrs/timeline?daysback=180&wiki=on&update=Update MetaCRS]

Sandbox

2016-08-03T14:11:59Z

Wiki-Harry Wood: tests wiki edit

testing 123

this is a link to an external url: [http://www.qgis.org Quantum GIS]

and another: [http://www.kernel.org Kernel.org]

and yet another: [http://www.gvsigce.org]

testing ABC

User:Harry Wood

2016-08-03T14:03:17Z

Wiki-Harry Wood: link my user account on osm and my homepage

I'm a big contributor to OpenStreetmap (User name [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Harry_Wood Harry Wood]) and regular user of open source geo software

My website: http://harrywood.co.uk